0:07Maceoit’s my third year here. And things are finally starting to like... Yeah. Alright, what are we doing?
0:22LiamNice to meet you. Nice to meet you too. God bless.
0:24MaceoWhat’d you say? I put these in my pocket. I said that was fucked. I know it sounded like shit. like shit.
0:29LiamLet’s leave them alone.
0:30MaceoYour glasses.
0:31JakeOh my God.
0:31MaceoGood luck getting in man. Appreciate it. what time is it I don’t know.
1:08LiamCan you give me a ticket? If they’re not coming?
1:10MaceoI think they are coming, I don’t know.
1:12LiamLet’s call them and see if they are.
1:14MaceoThey’ll be here by 7.30 if they just texted me.
1:17LiamI just want to go.
1:18MaceoYeah, I get that. Let’s come over here. Do you want me to do it? Huh? Do you want me to do it? Yeah, yeah, hold on. Sick. What’s up guys? Can I ask you a couple questions before you guys head inside? No. No, it’s okay. It’s about to start. Yeah, some people are rushing right to get inside. What’s up? Could I ask you a question before you head inside, bro? Yeah, yeah, see. It’s gonna be a lot of that. Yeah, damn. I guess we’re kinda fucked, huh? Well, I feel like what we got was pretty... I’m pretty content. Yeah, get the cool shots. Ooh. This guy.
1:18MaceoThis guy says the right stuff. Like, what would I go see? Miguel? After Miguel? People had a lot to say. This guy’s trying to speed eat. Are you excited?
2:05CYes. Yes.
2:06MaceoHell yeah. Oh, okay, great. Yes. Me trying shit in the last minute. Oh, my gosh. How we doing? How you guys doing? You guys are, like, eating ice cream. But can I ask you a question or two before you guys head inside? Sure. Everybody else is in a rush. I’m like, all right. You guys look like you’re chilling. Full pun intended.
2:34CYeah, absolutely. So we’ll enjoy
2:35Maceoout here. Hell yeah. So what brings you guys out tonight? I passed a red line ticket to Foros, which you
2:38Ccouldn’t come. Here he is. We’re also big fans. This guy’s doing important work.
2:44MaceoOkay, what makes it important?
2:48CA lot of people are in a lot of shit right now that is very confusing and hard for people to understand. And I think when the pundits are trying to tell people what’s going on, people don’t get it as much.
2:57MaceoAnd I think he’s speaking a language that people really relate to.
3:00CSo I said that yeah people like Andrew should really be out there telling people what is going on a little bit more
3:06MaceoOh, yeah,
3:06Cpeople should use
3:07Maceothe word pundits. Is that what you said? Yeah, what’s a pundit?
3:10CTalking heads who kind of have an opinion that they want us to also have I feel like a pundit is a person the media who’s kind of trying to tell you what’s going on instead of Well tell you how to think about what’s going on instead of tell you what is happening and let you form your own opinion I don’t really respect that so yeah Like it’s more on the ground approach
3:29MaceoVery well said. Very well said. Oh yeah. Your favorite video? Uh,
3:33Cwe’re huge Phish fans. I love the Phish Slap video.
3:36MaceoOkay, that’s it. Yeah,
3:37Cdefinitely that one. Fuck yeah.
3:39MaceoWhat about yourself? What do you like about this video? I actually don’t know the guy that much, so I’m interested to hear what he has to say tonight. Okay. What are your first impressions? Have you seen anything? I haven’t seen anything, so... Oh, so this is your first impression?
3:49CThis is my first impression.
3:50MaceoAlright, I’m gonna try and catch you afterwards and get your post-first impression. Alright. Hell yeah. Are you guys from here in Denver?
3:55CYeah. Love them. Okay. That’s why we’re chilling with you guys here.
3:57MaceoDo you feel like there’s a story in Denver Andrew should be telling that he’s not telling? Or is there an opportunity for him?
4:03CI mean, I think that the houses crisis has hit Denver pretty hard. It obviously kind of has a reputation. I think that the city’s not really helping as much as they should, and there’s a lot of NIMBYs who are kind of influencing how things are working around here. I also think, fuck Polis. Like, fucking big time.
4:22MaceoWho’s that? I don’t know who that is.
4:24CGovernor Polis, he’s the governor of the state. Denver, Colorado. Yeah, and he is just... Sorry, sorry, sorry. Now we’re in a hurry. We gotta go. No, I hear it, but
4:32Jakethank you.
4:33MaceoI appreciate it. Paulus. You want to shout out your socials or anything?
4:38CI’m not super active, but CalMcClay, C-A-L-M-C-B-L-A-Y.
4:42MaceoHell yeah. And you have a question you would ask people around the world? Um...
4:45CWhat would you really be giving up if you led with love instead of fear? You know? Like, it’s not that hard. Fuck yeah, man.
4:55MaceoYeah, yeah. Enjoy the show. What’s your name, man? Maceo.
4:58CMaceo. Calvin, man. Oh, yeah. Nice to meet you.
5:00MaceoWhat’s your handles? We Them Media.
5:02CWe Them Media. On YouTube.
5:02JakeCheck us out, man.
5:04MaceoEnjoy the show. I appreciate you, Tim. How was that? It was awesome. Let’s go. He said it was awesome. Fuck yeah. Let’s go back here. These people got to wait in line anyway. Let’s get them. How you doing? How are you? I’m well. Can I ask you a question on the camera? No, I work here so I can’t be on camera.
5:34ElmaOkay, that’s a good answer. Sorry.
5:36MaceoI’m unoffended. You don’t have to say sorry. What’s up, guys? I’m asking people some questions outside the show. Could I ask you all a question or two before you guys head inside? Sure. Let’s go. Hell yes. Yes. So my name is Maceo and I’m here with We Them Media. And I’ve been watching Channel 5 for a couple of years and I’ve been doing content in the crypto space, but I’m trying to break out of that and use my networking crypto to kind of get people around the world participating in like grassroots journalism type shit. So we’ve been giving out 100 bucks a week to people who go out and shoot videos.
5:53MaceoLast week’s question was, what’s the most important global issue today? We had people submit from India, Nigeria and Kenya. And this week we’re asking people what’s something that made them smile this week. So I’d love to start with that question. Who wants to go first? On Monday, I went to an FKA Twigs concert.
6:28LiamIt was a good time.
6:29MaceoFuck yeah. Man of the culture. I like that. You’re outside. What about yourself, man? It’s all mine. Go for it. You can say it. I was going to say the same thing, but it was also my birthday. Oh, so double down. Yeah, how was it? It was good. Good week. Fuck yeah. Fuck yeah. What about yourself?
6:42ElmaThe Artemis launch. It was really cool.
6:44MaceoUh-huh, uh-huh. Yeah. We’re going around the moon. Yeah. You want to jump in?
6:48CYeah.
6:49ElmaI got a copy here.
6:50MaceoThe Artemis launch. Okay, what’s exciting to you about the Artemis launch?
6:52JakeWe’re going back to the moon
6:55Maceosince like 50 years ago. Do you think the first one was real? No. You said going back, so I had to ask. I like that. Do you feel like it’s a distraction? What is a distraction? Like this stuff with the moon. I’m like, is that a distraction? People say it’s a leading question. I’m not a real journalist.
7:12LiamNah, I don’t think so.
7:13MaceoI think it’s a real landing. Hell yeah, hell yeah. And what about yourself? Something that made you smile this week? It was my boy’s birthday. I like that. Celebrating the guy. Celebrating the guy. And so how long have you all been following Channel 5 and Andrew Callaghan? Years. Yeah? Can I hand you the mic?
7:29ElmaYeah, years. Long time.
7:32MaceoOkay. And what do you like about him?
7:33ElmaI like that he engages different communities, like a bunch of different communities, everyone.
7:39MaceoAnd what do you think is a benefit of that? I like that take.
7:42ElmaYeah, he’s getting different perspectives that you might not see in your own city. so you can really see around the country and the world what’s going on.
7:51MaceoAre you from here in Denver?
7:52ElmaI’m from Indiana. Okay. Yeah, but I live in Denver.
7:56MaceoHow long have you been here?
7:57ElmaThree years.
7:59MaceoOkay. Is there a story in here or in Indiana that you feel like somebody like Andrew should be covering that’s not getting enough visibility but is, like, really a pertinent problem?
8:07ElmaOh, gosh. I’m not really sure. I’d have to think about that. I can’t think off the top of my head.
8:13MaceoThat’s okay. What about you guys? Do you guys have any things you feel like are the kind of stories Andrew should be covering in America? Personally, I find a lot of stuff through it. That kind of thing. So, I’m not that tapped in. Okay. And so that’s one of your favorite parts about Andrew is that he’s like surfacing information you said? Yeah, he can expose stuff I’m not really aware of. What’s like a standout thing you were exposed to by him? Recently, we’re doing the stuff on the Irish language stuff. And I found out about it because he was working with a group I like called Kneecap.
8:13MaceoYeah, fuck with Kneecap. I saw their movie on a plane like last year. I was like, these guys are sick. I watched that movie about the same time that that started coming out. So I found out about all this. I didn’t know what was going on. Hell yeah.
8:56JakeI had no idea.
8:56MaceoThat’s a sick movie. Have you seen the group live?
9:00JakeNot yet.
9:00MaceoNot yet. I want to. I like that. I heard they have like UBI for artists in Ireland like this week. Did you know that? No. Isn’t that insane? They get like over a thousand bucks a week or a month. I think that shit could be wrong. They start to like
9:12Liamnine minutes.
9:14MaceoAll right, fuck yeah. Are there any questions you guys would have for Andrew or anything you’d like to say to him?
9:19ElmaI’m excited for the show. It’s going to be awesome.
9:22MaceoOh, yeah. It’s going to be a good time. Yeah, we’re excited. We’re going to be stoked. And if you guys could ask people around the world one question, what would you ask them?
9:32ElmaI think it’s interesting to get different people’s perspective on what they think of Americans right now.
9:39MaceoOh, that’s a good take, Kenny. That’s a good take. I like that. What do you think about Americans in America right now? Yeah. A one question. You guys got to follow that up. How are we doing?
9:48LiamNo way. I can’t tell.
9:49MaceoYou double down on it. I like that. You’re leading with good takes. Do you want to shout out your name?
9:55ElmaI’m Elma.
9:56MaceoHell yeah.
9:57CI’m Ian.
9:58LiamI’m Jake.
9:59MaceoFuck yeah. And this is with We Them Media. Thank you guys so much. Cheers. Enjoy the show. I like that. How are you guys doing? I’m doing some interviews ahead of the show. Could I ask you all some questions? Would you be open? Fuck yeah, so how do you guys find out can I hand you the mic?
10:17CYeah. Oh,
10:18Maceoyeah How did you guys first find out about channel 5 or Andrew Callaghan? YouTube okay, was it you know like like it was in your feed or somebody sent it to you
10:28LiamI Honest I think it was in my feed. Yeah,
10:30Maceofuck. Yeah, do you remember? What’s the first video you remember from him from them?
10:34LiamMost recent one that I can think of though, like I don’t know about the first one, but something about LA, something about Skid Row.
10:45MaceoOkay, okay,
10:46Liamyeah, I know what you’re talking about. Yeah, okay, yeah, then it was that,
10:49Elmayeah.
10:49MaceoOkay, and what do you think he does right? The other journalists don’t do right. It’s a leading question, but I’m not a real journalist.
10:54LiamYeah, you’re not a real journalist? Why aren’t you actively doing journalism right now?
11:00MaceoI guess so. My friend said, a leading question. It’s a leading question. I’m like, oh, it’s a leading question. Thanks, though.
11:04LiamI appreciate that.
11:06MaceoI’m a real journalist.
11:07LiamYeah, like journalism is what you do. So, yeah. Yeah. It’s not like who you are necessarily. If you like do it, you do it. But I like that he shows up where people are at and he talks to them. You know what I mean? Like you’re doing it right now, kind of, which is like kind of meta. You know what I’m saying about it?
11:21MaceoIt is kind of meta, no? But I’m not a real journalist.
11:23LiamNo, but.
11:24MaceoI’m a meta journalist.
11:25LiamMeta journalist. Yeah. No, but I think it’s cool that he just goes to places and talks to people. He doesn’t say shit about places he’s never been. And then refuse to go there and continue to say the same shit, which is what a lot of people do. So, yeah. Pretty much it.
11:39MaceoAre there any stories? Are you from Denver?
11:41LiamNo, I’m from New York originally. Okay. Yeah.
11:44MaceoAre there any things you think that are happening in New York or in Denver that you feel like he should be covering? Or someone like him should be surfacing that we’re not really seeing the real story on? Shit.
11:55LiamI mean, I don’t know. I think New York and Denver have either enough attention on them or not enough going on to warrant him showing up. Because there’s probably places he can go to highlight better stories. But we got local journalists in Denver who are taken care of a lot.
12:08JakeOkay,
12:09Maceowho are your favorite local journalists? Shout them out.
12:10LiamBy name, I don’t know. But whoever does the Denver City Podcast, like Denver City Cast, I forget what it’s called. But they always know what’s up.
12:19MaceoOkay, well, that’s a plug. I never heard of that shit. I’m from Philly. I’ve been out here like five weeks.
12:22LiamOkay, I think Philly has one of these podcasts, one of the City Cast. podcasts so if you do like
12:28Maceois it like public access tv type shit
12:30Liamno but it’s like
12:32Maceotype shit type shit
12:33Liamit’s like a network of uh of like just intentionally local uh podcast networks for a handful of cities in the u.s so
12:40Maceookay that’s sick i’m gonna look into that
12:42Liamthey do uh they do monthly episodes just like let people know what’s going on about
12:46Maceois that how you get your information
12:48Liamhow i get my most like denver centric information probably yeah Yeah.
12:53MaceoOkay, that’s sick. Yeah. Do you have a message for Andrew?
12:55LiamKeep doing what you’re doing. Oh
12:58Maceoyeah. Cool. And if you could ask people around the world one question, what would you ask them? Mmm.
13:11LiamDamn, that’s a really good question, man. I don’t know. I’m totally stumped. I’m totally stumped.
13:17MaceoStream of consciousness, whatever comes to mind. It could even not be a question.
13:20ElmaOkay.
13:21LiamI guess I would ask them if they like pizza or sandwiches more. Mmm. Yeah. Okay. Pizza sandwiches. Pizza sandwiches, yeah.
13:29MaceoAnd you want to shout out, like, your name or your social media? Shout out anything you want.
13:31LiamMy name’s Liam.
13:33MaceoOkay, shout out to you. That’s all you need to know. Okay. That’s good enough.
13:35LiamFuck yeah. Have a good night.
13:36MaceoThanks, man. It’s for We Them Media.
13:38LiamOkay. We
13:39Maceohave an Instagram. It’s We Them Media. Yeah, you too, too.
13:42LiamYeah, I think the only thing I would say is try to keep every interview under, like, a minute and 30 seconds.
13:50MaceoYeah, I know, right? I’m like burning time over here. But I think, like you said, right afterwards will be good too. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is it. And this is my personal page. I’ll follow you back if that’s cool. Yeah. I don’t know what I did there, but. Hell yeah.
14:05LiamGood luck with whatever you are.
14:07MaceoFuck yeah, man. I appreciate it. Enjoy the show, guys. Yeah, thanks. I don’t even know. I don’t know. But I think this is sick. You should get this on video. What’s up? Can I ask you guys a couple questions on camera before the show? No, it’s okay. That’s okay. Can I get like a video of the back of your sweatshirt? It’s like a cool. It looks cool? Yeah, sure. Hell yeah. All right. She said we get a video of the back of her sweatshirt at least. I think it’s a cool frame. Sheesh, this guy with the framing. Stop playing with him. Stop playing with him.
14:07MaceoProfessional. Hell yeah. Can I ask you guys a couple questions before you head inside?
14:47JakeWhat’s up?
14:48MaceoYeah. Fuck yeah. Okay, no stress, no stress. What’s up? Can I ask you a couple questions before you head inside?
14:57LiamNo, that’s all right.
14:57MaceoI hear it, man. It’s starting. Go get your seat. Let me ask me. Let’s go. A man of the people. What’s your name?
15:01JakeI’m Jake.
15:02MaceoJake, nice to meet you. I’m Mateo. Is this
15:03Jakegonna go on the-
15:04MaceoNo, I’m not with Channel 5, admittedly, but I’m trying to reach Andrew because I admire what he does.
15:08JakeOkay, yeah.
15:09MaceoBut I appreciate you anyway.
15:10ElmaYeah, yeah.
15:11MaceoSo how did you first find out about Channel 5? YouTube. Okay. And yourself?
15:15JakeFrom me today. Okay. When we got these tickets.
15:17MaceoOkay, you got them today. What was the impetus?
15:19JakeYou know he was supposed to be here like a year ago. I work right over there, right? Uh-huh, and this is like kind of old school. It’s the only they still have the playbills up on the wall, right? I don’t like apps and stuff so I for work. You know I walk by and I see the posters And I saw his a year ago, and then it vanished. Yeah, it came back. I don’t know why I show that cancel
15:39MaceoYou’re a rugger. You’re like a con man in crypto you rug people Andrew. Oh I’m just a little bit
15:45JakeI literally saw the sign. I saw the sign, and I was waffling on the decision. And I was like, you know, I don’t even know what the show’s going to be. Alive? Whatever. It’s going to be very interesting, and I think it’ll be kind of cool. So I couldn’t say no.
15:59MaceoSo I’m trying to get into this man on the street kind of journalism, guerrilla journalism. What do you admire about what he does that I can keep in mind, or other people like myself who want to take on his approach?
16:09JakeHe, well, he has people out in the field, right? he covers stories that corporate interests don’t always like right and he brings great I think he’s kind of I think he’s courageous right I think his other
16:23Maceohis life it was team they’re all courageous and
16:25Jakehe teaches us about stuff we otherwise probably wouldn’t know about so that’s what I like about him
16:31Maceowhere else you get your news
16:32Jakeoh it’s a mess I’m kind of addicted to the news it’s a really bad thing I listen to NPR probably five times a day
16:41Maceothis guy knows what’s going on in the world.
16:43JakeOh, I’m obsessed. Very connected. I listen to The Daily up first every morning. Then I do CNN Inside Politics, which is like rage bait. It makes me angry all the time, but I still listen to it because I’m addicted. Okay. So that’s...
16:54MaceoWe got the right guy.
16:55JakeI probably have too much news coming...
16:57LiamThis is your guy.
16:57JakeYeah, I’ve got too much news to be honest.
16:58MaceoOkay, but like, what are your top five sources? Like, for people who want to know what the fuck is going on right now, I don’t know what’s going on. Why are we at war?
17:05JakeYeah, I would say... I don’t know.
17:07MaceoAnd that’s crazy because he’s an expert.
17:09JakeI know. I would say I think NPR.
17:12MaceoI called you an expert by the way.
17:13JakeOh, yeah. Thank you Just
17:14Maceotake that
17:14JakeNPR can always be NPR can always be trusted. I would always trust NPR.
17:18MaceoFuck yeah Trust is important.
17:21JakeBut yeah, I mean what else you got? I’m gonna get in line.
17:23MaceoOkay. No, okay So do you have anything you want to say to Andrew? I’m about to say to Timothy because my friend’s walking up
17:27JakeNah, you’re a casual fan of his and I think it’s cool that he’s doing live shows I still don’t know what to expect. So I think it’s neat that he’s doing it
17:34MaceoI saw him a couple years ago he like showed some of the short films he’d made that he couldn’t release because of like copyright and shit like that maybe I don’t know and Then he had like a talent show I freestyle that actually won. I have a t-shirt Oh, yeah, I heard he has a talent show so that’s cool. Maybe you’ll see me on stage to freestyle again.
17:47JakeAre you going in? Yeah, definitely.
17:48CI bought three of us tickets.
17:49JakeLet’s go.
17:50MaceoThey’ve been housing me for a month for next to free Shout out to them.
17:53JakeWell good. Alright well enjoy the show guys.
17:55MaceoLast question last question If you could ask people around the world one question, what would you ask them? And this is for both of you It’s for both of you
18:01JakeYeah um That’s a really good question actually.
18:05MaceoSee, I couldn’t let you run away.
18:06JakeIs that a Donny question? No, not about Donald Trump, but, you know, I think Iran is a really good example, right? It’s a massive, beautiful, complex country that your average American doesn’t even find on a fucking map, right? And it’s always driven me crazy that we,
18:24MaceoTalk your shit.
18:25JakeThat we like, that we have these views, right? And I was telling my coworker this the other day, I said, this is not the Middle East you think of. not people living in caves fucking goats okay this is a beautiful this is ancient persia right
18:37Maceoand he looked
18:37Liamthat’s right
18:38Jakehe was like and i was like i also wonder and i think the answer is probably no if people might feel the same way about america like um this is also a big complicated country i don’t think america’s is hidden right as iran is to us absolutely like iranians probably know a lot more about america than we do that yeah it’s probably because of our you know our cultural to me, you know, that stuff.
18:59MaceoSolid take.
19:00JakeBut, yeah, I mean, yeah, it’s a good take. Do you have a take? It’s a good take. No comment. No comment. Do
19:05Maceoyou not have a question?
19:06JakeI do not. I have no expectations today,
19:09Maceoso... No, for the world. This is even for him, right? A question for people around the world. Stream of consciousness. Stream of consciousness. No comment.
19:14JakeDo they hate us?
19:17CDo they hate us?
19:18MaceoI’m sure everyone hates us because of Donnie, but...
19:20JakeThe question is, you know, should you care if they hate you? Yes. See, I would say... I would hate us too. I would say, but I, you can’t, you can’t care. You can’t give enough shits about what people on the other side of the world think about you. Right? Because they don’t know you. I think if we’re doing the wrong thing, then yes. Yeah, but they don’t know you and you’re not doing that thing. No, I’m not. You’re not blowing up a school. But I would hate our country too if we were doing the things that we’re doing. Yeah, I would too. Yeah, there you go.
19:26JakeAnd all these things people have done in response, I think, I’m not saying they’re right, but I’m saying I understand why you’d be angry.
19:52MaceoIt’s all good. I know you guys want to run, but what are your names? You can say your first names. Oh, yeah. This is for We Them Media, enjoy the show. Shaboom. Hey. There he goes. Woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo.
20:07JakeWhat’s up?
20:07MaceoWhat’s up, man? Do you want this? It’s
20:10Clate, an hour late. Sorry.
